Racial Profiling

Since TrackBack appears to hate me, I’m linking you to both that and the Permalink for the entry.

Anyway, Jeff at Minutiae found this picture of a “random” passenger’s bag being checked. Comments in the blog point out that the man’s headdress is not Muslim, that it’s reasonable to be suspicious of this man given the nature of the recent threats, and that the white woman in the back is just as scary and also deserves to be searched.

But as Jeff responds, whether the search was reasonable or not, the picture was in bad taste. After all, debate on the propriety of racial profiling aside (as usual, if you want to discuss, it email me), it’s pretty inappropriate for a government to claim its searches are random, and then allow the publication of a picture that makes the searches look like anything but. If the AP’s point was that racial profiling is going on, the reporter should say so. And he or she might have; Jeff didn’t link to the original article and I couldn’t find it.

Otherwise, though, Jeff is right. The search would look far more random if the lady in the background was the one being searched.

And if you’d like to debate whether or not that woman appears to be a threat, well, I’m sure Jeff won’t mind the commentary.

I was surprised more bloggers haven’t jumped on this, so I did a search on Google’s blog directory. On the first two pages, only The Bourbon Logs offered the photo. Chinaski came to the same conclusions, but still no link.

It seems that, not only is racial profiling happening (ethically questionable, but possibly justifiable, depending whom you ask), not only is it being photographed and published, but so few people even notice!

I’d expect this to show up all over the blogsphere. It happened Friday. There’s been ample time.

chinaski (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 1:53am

You know I meant to put the link in the post and simply failed to. I grabbed the photo from the CNN website before they removed it and that was the end of it.

My friend has a child, who was maybe five when 9-11 happened. A couple of months later they were driving and the girl pointed at a man walking on the sidewalk. He was wearing a turban.

The little girl's comment: "is that the bad man?"

She was referring to Osama Bin Laden of course. What a world eh?

Jeff Martin (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 7:49am

For the record, the article mentioned nothing about profiling. It was a standard (as much as standard can be with a story like it) detailing of the happenings in New York that day.

AND, it appears that you don't use TypePad to write your blog, so there's really no way that I know to use a trackback pinging address from my blog in yours.

Laura C. Grow @ October 10, 2005 - 11:45am

So that's why trackback doesn't work! Mystery solved.

Mike (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 8:13am

duh....because its middle eastern people that are the terrorist. Not white people. Unless you would like to talk about the story of the white kid in Oklahoma. A story that has been hidden by the media, due to the fact that it was a muslim based crime and he was lead to do so by paki's, had jihad manuals and attended a mosque in Norman , OK.

GOD FORBID YOU AND THE MSM PORTRAY ISLAM IN A BAD WAY.

Its muslims that suicide bomb. Its muslims that are terrorist. ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM. The longer you and other idiots deny that, the worse off THEY will be when it happens again.

Go google "internment camps" and see what we did with the japanese in WWII. Thats where we are headed if people like you keep fighting every effort we are making to stop this.

Lose the white guilt and get a clue!!

willemmarx @ October 10, 2005 - 9:29am

Mike, why should the Main Stream Media be portraying Islam in a bad way? Why should the Main Stream Media portray anybody in a bad way? Is it not the role of the media to merely report events, to relay information for a discerning viewing/reading public, so that people like you can have some reliable, factual basis for seemingly unqualified criticisms of events and cultures about which clearly you know very little...have you spent extensive time in the Middle East, or been close friends with practising and devout Muslims, or even had access to classified information that would allow you to judge whether the media had "hidden" a story about a "white kid in Oklahoma?"

I respect your right to express an opinion, however much I may or may not disagree with it, but in this particular forum I would expect it to be far better worded, and written with at least a modicum of justification and explanation.

Christie Rizk @ October 11, 2005 - 8:44am

Willem, I think this is the first time I have ever agreed with you. Racial profiling goes beyond religion as well. I'm from the Middle East, though a Christian, and while I'm sure the pressure is even worse on my Muslim counterparts, there is nothing more humiliating than being pulled aside in an airport or wherever because you happen to have a passport with Arabic writing on it.

If people who blamed Muslims or Arabs for all the evils of the world could step into our shoes for a few airplane rides, they wouldn't be so bigoted.

Jason (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 1:18pm

My response to Mike's argument, that Islam is bad, is that the KKK is a Christian group, yet they don't give Christianity a bad name. Islam is not the problem, it's the people who use it to carry out wars, the same with any religion.

Mike (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 3:01pm

willemmarx...I didnt know that , in order to post here or have an opinion in the world on something, you had to have lived it or been to it. I wonder how people knew of the moon before we visited and now, of Mars, as we havent been there yet. Anyways, Ill cater your ridiculous view that that is true.

1. I lived in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia in the 70s and 90s, Jordan in the later 70s and 80s and Qatar in the 90s as well.

2.I majored in Middle Eastern History in Jordan and at U.N.C. Chapel Hill.

I am a dependent of a US military father and mother, mostly working with NATO and the defunct U.N.

That being said, for 20 or so years I have known what a problem Islam was and is for The United States. In elementary school, the Saudi Police would come in and make sure there were no bibles or christian teachings going on, even though we were all diplomat or military children on US Military Property.

They have ZERO tolerance for anything other than MUSLIM beliefs and WILL NOT hesitate to murder you in cold blood if you publicly denounce Islam or its followers. They also believe in killing as a punishment for dishonoring the family. Dishonoring being something as radical as getting bad grades. YES! I said bad grades.

I have spent my life on the subject, watching, listening and waiting for the time when it decided to move to the US. I knew since I was 10 years old it would eventually try.

And quite honestly, I have MORE THAN ENOUGH reliable and factual basis to make the statements I do.

The KKK doesnt behead people in town circles, hang people from trees, buildings and murder 10 yr old children for failing mathematics. They are an embarrassing joke to south and all of the United States, so its not the same thing. They are a movement, Islam is a 2. something billion person religion intent on converting everyone in the WORLD!

SERIOUSLY...GET WITH THE PROGRAM. Its amazing to me that with all of the information available online, people still dont get what they are trying to do. Muslim Spiritual Leaders, Immams and Government leaders plainly state on their own websites what their goal is...worldwide domination. The only Muslim Nation HONESTLY helping us is Pakistan.

Christie Rizk @ October 11, 2005 - 8:47am

The KKK doesn't hang people from trees? I think you're the one who needs to get real. Ask African Americans living in the south if they consider the KKK "an embarassing joke." Make a point if you want, but don't try to twist facts, it makes you look dumb.

Jason (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 4:01pm

Can you name a religion that doesn't want everyone in the world to believe the same things they do?

Jason (not verified) @ October 10, 2005 - 4:12pm

That said, those Muslims you speak of sound brutal, but is it all of them, or just the Middle Eastern ones? If Pakistan is on our side as you say, then they can't all be bad. Which leads me to believe it's not the Muslims, but a group of people who happen to be Muslim and believe that their religion is right for everyone, and will stop at nothing to make it the religion of the world. I know Pakistan is more East Asian than Middle East Asian, but still, they're Muslim.

Courtney F. Bal... @ October 10, 2005 - 4:37pm

Laura - Just wanted to let you know I linked your blog in mine about racial stereotypes. I agree with you - especially on how surprising it is that no one seems to notice. It was also a nice touch to research how many blogs were carrying it. Thanks for helping me prove my point!

Mike (not verified) @ October 11, 2005 - 11:51am

Christie Rizk, Im not twisting facts... the KKK DOESNT hang people from trees. They DID in the past, but not now. Thats what I said. Sorry you read it wrong.

Jason, every religion wants you to convert. Can you name me one besides Islam that will kill you if you dont believe in what they do?

133 current conflicts in the world going on, and Islam is on one side of 132 of them. Still think its the religion of peace?

Ryan McConnell @ October 11, 2005 - 12:37pm

Mike- I'm puzzled by your McVeigh-Islam connection. I haven't heard of it before and am instantly skeptical of it. But if you have any true evidence that Islam motivated the OK City attack -- and not just dubious evidence that McVeigh attended a mosque in Norman, OK -- you should bring it forward. I seriously doubt the MSM would try to sweep a huge story like that under the rug.

But more to your point about Islam....Most religions have their extremists. Christianity, for instance, has a long, long history of persecution and violence enacted supposedly in the name of the religion. Yes, it doesn't occur anymore, but you can't just blame all of the world's problems on Islam when our country's dominant religion has ample blood on its hands in the same way. So I disagree that "ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM"; the problem is among those Moslims who bastardize the religion for violence, a very small minority of the overall population. Without the distinction, you risk tagging hundreds of millions of peaceful people as bloodthirsty savages, something I hope you don't believe.

Mike (not verified) @ October 11, 2005 - 12:58pm

Ryan...You prove my point about the oklahoma suicide bombing. You think Im talking of McVeigh. Im not. Im talking about Joel "Henry" Hinrichs III.

a few quotes :

investigators say they also found "Islamic jihad" material in Hinrichs' apartment when they searched it. Hinrichs, it turns out, attended a mosque near his university-owned apartment – the same one attended by Zacharias Moussaoui, the only person charged in connection with the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

In another development, the feed-store owner who refused to sell Hinrichs fertilizer that can be used to fashion explosives says an off-duty Norman, Okla., police officer witnessed the attempted transaction.

Dustin Ellison, proprietor of Ellison Seed and Feed in Norman said the officer was standing no more than "two to three feet away" from him and Hinrichs when the former OU student attempted to buy ammonium nitrate – a principle ingredient in the bomb that destroyed the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City April 19, 1995 – Sept. 29, just two days before committing suicide.

Ellison also told WND he informed Hinrichs the store didn't carry any ammonium nitrate and then asked Hinrichs why he needed it. The store owner says the OU junior, who was majoring in mechanical engineering, became visibly nervous, close-mouthed and stammering. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46701

Anyways..no offense to you. How would you have known if you werent watching the 5 minutes of tv 3 weekends ago when they talked about it.

I was simply stating that the media hides anything that would put Islam in bad light. WHY???...I dont have a clue. It will be the death of some of us though, I do know that. We will have to be like naive 12 yr olds and wait for another attack or 2 or from the sounds of it, 3 or 4 or 5. Dont want to possibly take Preemptive Solutions against muslims or mosques. God forbid we protect our country or trample a terrorist or terrorist supporter/financiers civil rights.

9/11 was enough for me and SOME others.

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