Flag as Questionable

Mark Maness, in his blog 4 rows back in the bleacher seats, talks about whether or not Jesus would blog.

Now I believe He would not only have plenty of objections, but there would no doubt be a liberal use of the flag button by those who would seek to silence Him in their anger over His precepts. And I mean "liberal" with a small "l".

The flag button is a relatively new feature at Blogger with which readers can “flag,” or mark as objectionable, individual posts. According to Blogger:

When a person visiting a blog clicks the "Flag?" button in the Blogger Navbar, it means they believe the content of the blog may be potentially offensive or illegal. We track the number of times a blog has been flagged as objectionable and use this information to determine what action is needed. This feature allows the blogging community as a whole to identify content they deem objectionable. Have you read The Wisdom of Crowds? It's sort of like that.

So, no one is changing or limiting what the bloggers can write. If the people who run Blogger decide there’s merit to the flags, they can set the blog in question to “unlisted,” which means it’s available on the internet, but is not promoted at Blogger.com.

This seems fair enough. You can’t please everyone, so you make the best compromises you can.

Not all bloggers are happy with this, though. Steakboy at Songs of Meat complains on two levels. The first is personal – he wants his critics to address him directly rather than anonymously flagging his blog. The second:

I do have a big problem with:

the complete lack of transparency regarding how these standards are defined, and with making users have to dig and scrounge for what can only be described as a vague sense for the contours of the issues relative to standards.

I also have a problem with the lack of any notification to bloggers of real or perceived transgressions of these (badly-defined) standards, and of determinations that a blog has been blacklisted (if in case that is what has happened here). I only and by accident and through my own efforts stumbled across an awareness of something having going awry with my blog. No one has extended the courtesy of even a perfunctory, sterile, canned, automated notification of how, where, or when I may have stepped out of line.

Emphasis his.

So, technically, I suppose it’s not censorship. At the same time, I can understand Steakboy’s frustration. Blogger has the right to do what it wants with its free service, anyway, and they’re not shutting people down for what they write. Still, it might be a good idea for Blogger to inform those it takes action against as to why the action is going on – if they’re not doing so already.

Mark’s post, and this whole situation, make me wonder something, though:

WWJF? Who would Jesus flag?

steakboy (not verified) @ October 20, 2005 - 11:50pm

heya laura,

large, appreciative thanks to you for your having found your way to my humble chunk of blogspot turf, for leaving some thoughtful breadcrumbs, and especially for your having tipped your hat by incorporating my thoughts into your post in a 100% context-appropriate manner.

i'm a bit less steamed today than i was when i launched my post, but i'm still not satisfied: there remains a significant gap between the number of my posts that pop up through filtered and unfiltered searches. and -- in spite of the fact that i did get a response from the folks at google/blogger, which i do appreciate--the whole thing remains a mystery to me.

i did, somehow, through it all, have the presence of mind to recognize that (especially in light of the non-existent out of pocket costs attached to this otherwise remarkable public toolbox/venue) i don't have a carte-blanche claim to use this forum as a venue to cough up anything without deference to boundaries.

but, still, it appears as though i've crossed some boundaries, and, for the life of me, i just can't figure out where they're drawn, and when i transgressed. if anyone can help me identify what i've offered that can only be found through toggling off the safe search feature--by google's own definition, reserved to catch explicitly offensive/sexual content--i'll be grateful.

i'll concede i can wax salty. but obscene? really? i just don't get it. double-secret invisible parameters make baby jesus cry.

again, many thanks to you. i'll return, and i hope you'll not mind my having added your chunk of blogspot to my links to "blogs i dig"

most appreciatively,

sb

Laura C. Grow @ October 20, 2005 - 11:54pm

Please do. And encourage your readers to check out the rest of the writers here at PressEthic.

steakboy (not verified) @ October 21, 2005 - 12:12am

color it done; i'm already sensing an overlap between what you and your team are thinking of and writing about, and things that interest the armchair sociologist that still resides within me (along with the frustrated political cartoonist, the disgruntled jazz saxophonist, the recovering hydrogeologist, and the embryonic writer. dang. it's crowded in here...)--while i do enjoy using my blog as a dumping ground for doodles, for hamfisted attempts at humor, and for pure banality, i do have, honor and exercise a serious side.

since what passes as main stream media have largely abdicated their responsibilty in helping to assure the existence/maintenance of an informed electorate, less established and more democratized and individualized outposts (such as this) are becoming more salient.

i'm anticipating finding much here to ponder on; i'm grateful we stumbled across each other.

again, thank you.

best,

sb

Michelle Crowley @ October 21, 2005 - 11:19pm

laura, great post. this flag option kind of reminds of the "warning" button on instant messenger. If I'm not mistaken, you can warn some one (whether precedented or not) and then it is made public to anyone else chatting with the person what their warning level is. It's a bit different from a blog though, and it seems this flag option really brings censorship a bit closer to the world of blogs. Thanks for bringing it to my atttention!

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